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048 How to Make Any Career Creative with Tania Katan

How to Make Any Career Creative Follow Your Different™ Podcast

“Every rockstar business needs a punk.” – Tania Katan

On this episode, the incredible Tania Katan has a riveting conversation with Christopher about how to put the spark of joy back into work and life, how she overcame breast cancer and how it shaped her life.

Tania is a powerful example of someone who “used her different” to make her place in the world.

She shares the captivating story of how she went from acting, to working in enterprise technology, to becoming an advocate for women in tech, to becoming a successful author and more.

Tania is famous for starting the empowerment campaign #ItWasNeverADress. 

“We don’t need to be in a job or a field that is uniquely creative in order to be uniquely creative within the work we do.” – Tania Katan

Authoring Bestseller “Creative Trespassing”

Tania wrote the book as a dialogue and a monologue.

This reflects the way she holds her book tours and keynote speeches. She lets her audience talk and give her feedback while she listens to them.

Real conversations inspire her.

When she went to record the audiobook, she brought a photograph of her friends, family and other people who inspire her to the studio. This allowed her to feel that she was sharing her stories with them.

Unpacking the Dedication

Tania says that she was born as an outsider.

She wrote about the reality of her life and how she found a way to use “outsiderness” or “misfitness” to create a value for both companies and the people around her.

Her being different is how she makes a difference.

“Embracing the fact that we are misfits and we are flawed allows us to actually take risks and know that the outcome is going to be better than ‘okay’.” – Tania Katan

We Teach When We Most Need to Learn

At the age of 21, her breast was removed to save her life.

Following this event, she felt less—“other”—until she came to a realization when she became an adult.

Nobody is perfect.

Being an outsider can be painful for some people, and this is the epitome of irony. Every human being goes through the same dilemma and we all can feel uncomfortable and scared of becoming misfits.

This is where Tania’s need and desire to speak for them came from—the need to learn herself.

“To be perfect is like to be invisible.” – Tania Katan

By finding a way to harness her different, Tania is the epitome of “why fit in, when you can stand out”.

To hear more about how Tania went from theater to tech industry and how she thinks every rockstar business needs a punk, download and listen to this episode.


Tania Katan is an inspirational speaker, creative consultant and co-creator of the #ItWasNeverADress campaign. She is also the best-selling author of the book, Creative Trespassing.

She has been a featured speaker at CiscoLive!, S.H.E. Summit, Business of Software, Expedia, Uber, Etsy, Humana, Google, Amazon, Comedy Central Stage, TEDx, and more. 




We hope you enjoyed Tania Katan on this episode of Follow Your Different™! Christopher loves hearing from his listeners. Feel free to email him, connect on Facebook, TwitterInstagram and subscribe on iTunes!

003 Cameron Herold Free PR, Beige Companies More

Follow Your Different™ Cameron Herold

How do you make sure your company does not go “beige”? Cameron Herold tells us how and why simple is ultimately powerful.

Cameron Herold – Running with Simple

According to Cameron, some business persons may be likened to a fly hitting the window over and over in an attempt to get out instead of turning around and taking the door. This is something that’s not very advisable and in fact can result in ruin.

“Why would you try so hard when there’s already a system in place?” – Cameron Herold

All of Cameron’s techniques tend to be simple to execute. He grew up simple, an average guy in high school and college. He doesn’t run with complicated that he doesn’t understand.

No to the A-Player Only Mindset 

Something that Cameron has been decidedly against is the belief that a company becomes successful by hiring A players. This is impossible. A company’s A players are its race horses and the B players, the work horses.

A company needs a bunch of people who will work hard. They need to be good and fit into the culture  in order to grow into their roles. In short, companies have to be honest with themselves.

“I guess it’s like baseball. You just need a bunch of solid singles and doubles and you’ll win the game. You don’t need everybody getting home runs.” – Cameron Herold

A Diverse Team

Building a company with this line of thinking is based on three things. These include money a company is willing to pay, results needed from the person to be hired, and whether the hire has done what is expected of them before.

“Would you rather have someone who’s broken world records or someone who knows how to do it?” – Cameron Herold

It’s impossible to have a whole bunch of marathoners. But you can have a few marathoners, people who run 10Ks, and lastly, people who are at least not sitting in the couch smoking all day.

To hear more about companies and PR, download and listen to the episode.


Cameron Herold is the founder of the COO Alliance as well as a serial entrepreneur, author and top-rated international speaker. His  books include Double Double, Vivid Vision, Meetings Suck, and his latest, Miracle Morning for Entrepreneurs.

He is known as a business growth guru and CEO Whisperer, and speaks around the world at CEO and COO events. Learn more and download Cameron’s personal Vivid Vision at




We hope you enjoyed Cameron Herold on this episode of Follow Your Different™! Christopher loves hearing from his listeners. Feel free to email him, connect on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and subscribe on iTunes!